Uncertainty by Bible Johnny: Trinitarians where does the Bible say these words?
Where does the Bible use the following words?
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
Three pesonns in one God
Trinity
or the trinity doctrine where does it appear in the whole Bible?
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Most practical answer:
Answer by Know
They just read between lines.
Answer by No Chance Without Jesus
1st John 3:16 I believe
(Note John calls Jesus the Word)
EDIT
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
Answer by Elijah
The Bible does not say those words because
“Neither the word Trinity, NOR THE EXPLICIT DOCTRINE as such, appears in the New Testament.” – The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 1985, Micropedia, vol. 11, p. 928.
An honest, clear statement of the Trinity Doctrine *would* be:
“For there are three persons who compose the only true God: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And these three persons are the One God.”
It isn’t a difficult statement for anyone to write, let alone an inspired Bible writer. But you will never see that (not even once) in the inspired Scriptures.
Therefore, those who believe in the Trinity Doctrine are forced to rely on perhaps a dozen or two carefully picked passages in the Bible and interpret them the way that they want.
Even on page 630 of the highly trinitarian publication, Today’s Dictionary of the Bible, Bethany House Publishers, 1982, had to admit that
“The Trinity…is an INFERRED doctrine, gathered ECLECTICALLY from the entire Canon.”
Yes, many who believe that Jesus is God or in the Trinity rely only on a few selected, so-called ‘proof-texts’ (i.e. John 1:1, John 10:30, John 8:58, etc.) which, if carefully examined, are not proof of the Trinity in any way.
The Trinity – Is It Clearly a Bible Teaching?
http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_03.htm
What About Trinity “Proof Texts”?
http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_08.htm
Exposing the False Reasoning Behind Trinity Proof Texts
http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2011/03/exposing-false-reasoning-behind-trinity.html
Answer by MOMMAH
John 1
New International Version (NIV)
The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
John 1:18
New International Version (NIV)
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[a] is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
Revelation 19:13
He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.
Revelation 1:8 (JESUS SPEAKING)
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Revelation 1:10-11 (JESUS SPEAKING)
New King James Version (NKJV)
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11 saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and,[a] “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia:[b] to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”
Isaiah 41:4
Who has performed and done it, Calling the generations from the beginning? ‘I, the LORD, am the first; And with the last I am He.’”
Isaiah 48:12
[ God’s Ancient Plan to Redeem Israel ] “Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last.
Revelation 22:13 (JESUS SPEAKING)
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Isaiah 44:6
[ There Is No Other God ] “Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.
Revelation 21:5-7
New International Version (NIV)
5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
6 He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7 Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children.
Revelation 7:17
For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; ‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’ ‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’ ”
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW%2025:31-46&version=NIV
IF JESUS has this POWER why can’t HE be GOD?
Answer by Paul
God the Son – in those exact words? nowhere but you knew that already, same goes for God the Holy Spirit, Three persons in one God all phrases not in the bible. The word trinity is also not in the bible.
The DOCTRINE of the trinity though is all over the bible.
Jesus is God (John 1:1 et al)
The Holy Spirit is God – Acts 5:3-4
The Father is God John 8:54
There is only one God Deut 6:4 et al
Answer by itry04
Obviously the Bible references God the Father on multiple occassions. That is, the Bible calls Jesus the Son of God. God is the Supreme Diety, the Creator of the Universe. Jesus, God’s only Son, was sent to Earth, not condem the World but to save it. The Bible tells us that no man comes to Father except through Jesus. While on Earth, Jesus taught that he was God. In fact, in John 10:30, we are told that Jesus and the Father are one. As to the Holy Spirit, upon Jesus’ death, the disciples were gathered in a home which was consumed by a rushing wind and tounges of fire sat above each of their heads. There are scriptures which explain, describe, or otherwise tell about the Holy Spirit which are too numerous to begin providing here. You might start with John 14:26 since you should already be near there looking up the first scripture I quoted.
Essentially, the Bible tells us that God the Father is the creator of the universe, the Father of man, the Supreme Diety who reigns over mankind. Jesus, as the Bible teaches, was one with God, the Son of God, sent to Earth to walk in the form of a man so that we who believe may not perish but have everlasting life. That everlasting life could only be obtained by adhering to Spirit of God, or the Holy Spirit, which is the only manner in which a man may experience God while he is here on this Earth. Why God would create such a paradigm, I am certain that no one can honestly answer. I suggest that it is more likely than not due to God’s plan which requires his followers to exhibit faith. It can best be described by saying that the faith of a Christian is stronger than any other as he must stand in the face of non-believers, be ridiculed, called stupid, thought of as less intelligent, and all of this done to him by the mouths and hands of men who question their existence and provide absolutely no logical reason for their existence other than to say that they are a product of science.
Answer by Hong Kong Phooey
Notice how simple things get convoluted. Take this scripture-
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
It goes from 3 bearing witness, to becoming one according to the trinity. However, simple reasoning shows the 3 are still 3 but are one in providing witness, not being.
I noticed someone posted a scripture in Acts. This doesn’t show the holy spirit being God at all. It’s sad they add to the Bible instead of just reading it.
Answer by new world
no where.
Answer by the Christian
It doesn’t…it doesn’t mean the bible doesn’t teach it…just because it’s not phrased in that particular way. Keep reading with lots of prayer, ask God to show you the truth.
God loves you….
Answer by lilAngel
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD
Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 43:10, Isaiah 44:6-8
TRINITY in the Old Testament:
Genesis 1:1,26,27
Isaiah 6:1-10
Isaiah 48:12-16
Zechariah 2:10-11
THE FATHER IS GOD
I Peter 1:17
John 5:17-23
THE SON IS GOD
He Is Called God Explicitly
Matt. 1:23, “Emmanuel-God with us.”
John 1:1, “The Word was God.”
John 5:17-23, The Son is “equal” to his Father
John 8:53-59, Jesus is the “I AM” of Exodus 3:1-15
John 10:28-33, Jesus and the Father are equal
John 20:28 “The Lord of me and THE GOD of me.”
Romans 9:5, Christ is God over all
Col.2:9, All the fullness of deity
Titus 2:13, “our Great God and Saviour.”
Heb.1:8, “Thy throne O God.”
I John 5:20, “The true God.”
Creator of ALL Things
John 1:3
Eph. 3:9
Col.1:16,17
Heb. 2:10
Rev. 3:14
The Almighty
Rev. 1:8 with 21:5-7; and 22:12,13,16,20
The First and Last
Rev.1:17; 2:8; 22:13 (Compare Isaiah 44:6)
The Exact Representation of The Father
Heb. 1:3
John 12:45, 14:6-11
Isaiah 46:9
He Is Worshipped As God. (See Luke 4:8)
Rev. 5:11-13 (Compare Rev. 4:9-11)
Heb. 1:6
O.T./N.T. Cross-Reference Proves Jesus Is God
Isaiah 40:3 with John 1:23 & 3:28
Isaiah 45:23 with Phil.2:10,11 and Rom. 14:11
Isaiah 44:24 with John 1:3
Isaiah 6:1-5 with John 12:37-41
Isaiah 8:13,14 with I Peter 2:7,8
Isaiah 42:8 with John 17:5
Isaiah 60:19 with Luke 2:30-32
Psalms 102:24-27 with Heb. 1:10-12
Psalms 45:6,7 with Heb. 1:8,9
Psalms 23:1 with Isaiah 40:10,11 and John 10,11
I Kings 8:39 with Rev. 2:23
Joel 2:32 with Rom. 10:9-13
Ex. 3:14 with John 8:58,59
Mal. 3:1 with Matt. 11:10
Ex.19:18-21 with Heb. 12:18-26
Zech.12:10 & 13:6,7 with John 19:34-37
Zech. 14:4,5 with Matt. 24:29-31; Matt. 25:31; Jude 14,15; II Thess. 1:7-10; Rev. 19:11-2
Jesus Is God Made Flesh
Phil. 2:5-8: Jesus “being in the form of God” (i.e., deity), did not consider it something to cling to, but emptied himself of his divine glory, NOT his divine nature, and took UPON his divine form “the form of a servant” (i.e., humanity), in order to suffer death.
John 1:1,14: “In the beginning was (eternally) the Word and the Word was with God (i.e., the Father and Holy Spirit), and the Word was God (deity).” “And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.”
Hebrews 1:3 and 2:9-18: Jesus is the “EXACT REPRESENTATION of His (God’s) VERY BEING”. Jesus set aside his infinite glory to become one of us so that he could be to us an example in faith, the perfect sacrifice, our High Priest, Comforter, and Saviour
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Who Is The “Angel Of God?”
Gen.16:7-13
Gen.18:1,13,17,20-22,26,33; 19:24
Gen. 22:11-18
Gen. 31:11-13
Gen. 32:24-30 (compare Hosea 12:4,5)
Gen.48: 15,16
Ex. 3:1-15 (compare vs. 5 with Joshua 5: 14,15)
Ex.23:20,21
Judges 6:11-23
Note: In these passages the “Angel of God” speaks as God, is called God, does the works of God, and is worshipped by those to whom He appears. He is Jesus, the Son of God. “Angel” means “messenger” and is applied to the angelic beings, men (evangelists), and to God.
John 14:28 “My Father is greater than I.” Just as the husband is positionally greater than the wife so the Father is greater the the Son. Both husband and wife are equally human as the Father and Son are equally divine.
Col.1:15 “the Firstborn over all creation.” “Firstborn” (Gr. Prototokos), not “first created” (Gr. “Protoktistos”). ‘Firstborn’ is term that means ‘first in inheritance’. These scriptures bear that out: Gen.41:51,52 with Jer. 31:9; Deut. 21:15-17; Ex. 4:22; and Job 18:13.
Rev.3:14 “the beginning of God’s creation.” We derive many words such as architect, archangel, arch-rival, from the Greek word “arche” translated “beginning” in this verse. It means “origin,” “source,” “chief,” and “ruler.” Jesus is the origin of ALL, the Creator
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THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD
He Is Called God
Acts 5:3,4 Lying to the Spirit is lying to God
II Cor. 3:17 “The Lord is that Spirit.” (compare this with Ex. 34:29-35)
He Is Omnipotent
Isaiah 40:12-14 (See Romans 11:34, I Cor. 2:16)
He Is Omniscient
I Cor. 2:10,11 Isaiah 40: 13,14
He Is Omnipresent
Psalm 139
He Is Eternal
Heb. 9:14
He Has The Attributes Of Personality, Intellect
Rom. 8:27, “The MIND of the Spirit.”
I Cor. 2:10-12, The Spirit “KNOWS.”
Will I Cor.12:11, “The Spirit WILLS.”
Emotion
Eph. 4:30, “GRIEVE” not the Spirit
His Self awareness Is Shown By These Actions:
He Speaks
Acts 8:29; 10:19; 13:2; 21:11
Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22
He Teaches
Luke 12:12
John 14:26
I John 2:26,27
Says “I”
Acts 10:20
The Holy Spirit is a self aware personality, is eternal, He must be God, God is the only eternal being.
Conclusion
“So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. There are not three Gods, but one God.”
Answer by Waiting For Paradise
You will not find any such expressions in the Bible.
It’s more than a little strange that while Trinitarians are able to speak and reason so explicitly on the doctrine, the Bible itself is silent in making any explicit statements about it. The most explicit statement Trinitarians often ignorantly or dishonestly point to in the Bible (see one of the above answers), is the *fraudulent* version of 1John 5:7 — the Comma Johanneum:
http://www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/trinity/verses/1Jn5_7.html
The Bible’s silence in contrast to the Trinitarians’ explicit explanations, prove that the doctrine is a creature of the minds of Trinitarians and not of the Bible — not of Truth. This is why Trinitarians must resort to twisting scriptures and reading fallacious arguments and reasonings into them to make them seem to support their man-made doctrine.
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